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Inside the UK’s biggest Porsche centre

• Andy Brookes, Lee Sibley • Season 14 • Episode 162

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A new series of 9WERKS Radio is here, with Lee and Andy reporting fresh from a road trip to 9WERKS’ Fried Eggs & Friends event at Porsche Centre Leeds.

The guys are joined on the episode by Wayne & Mark from Porsche Leeds to share the history of the family-owned JCT600 dealership – operating out of one of the biggest Porsche sites in the UK – before revealing comprehensive renovation plans for next year.

Plus, the boys take a first look at the new hybrid 992.2 Turbo S.

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We start with laughter, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to another series of your favourite Porsche and car podcast. It is, of course, Nineworks Radio with Lee Sibley and Andy Brooks. Good day.

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Back in the room.

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It's good to be back. It is indeed. It is good to be back.

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You've been busy in our few weeks off.

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I've been very busy, Andy. I'll tell you what I've been very busy doing. I've been very busy remembering we need to start this episode with a word from our sponsors good

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yeah we used it the other day didn't we

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we did

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yeah it was particularly funny using the walkie talkie function on that and the five beeps that happened beforehand oh yeah that's quite cool isn't it it is unless you're listening to music but yeah it was good it was good it means that yeah you don't have to be holding any walkie talkie keys you and I can just converse while we're in convoy all via the app so another cool feature of that we did say last series the good news that Johan at Road Trip Tribes has told us Apple CarPlay compatibility is on the way yes

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long in the tooth almost like before it's even arrived that that we could just all see it coming really you know so it's it's the 992.2 turbo s and it's been lacking a turbo and turbo s has been lacking from the new generation of 911 for some time now we've spoken at length on the podcast how porsche is completely as you said andy like remixed the uh the lineup and the um the story of how the lineup develops is completely different for 992 yeah it changed certainly big time 100%. You know, a lot of, I think, external reasons are the main cause of it. But yeah, so we're getting used to perhaps a new way of working. And yes, exactly as you said, similar with that, Porsche teasing us via its own social media channels now. But if you're a Porsche connoisseur and many people listening to this are, just like you and I, Andy, you could pretty much work out what it was, you know, like the silhouette of the car. You could see the turbo silhouette that we're all used to with the active aero on the back of the car you know lack of a big gts fixed wing yeah the crest on the car was badged up with the old turbanite hidden yeah which we all know is it's hinting at the turbanite badge which is different from the usual porsche crest with center lock wheels four-wheel drive and you could even it was teasing sound which is again a new territory for porsche i would say but you could hear that hybrid system that those of us that have driven the gts will be used to so yeah you could, you could pretty much guess what it was before Patrick Dempsey did the big reveal from the live broadcast at Vysak on a Sunday. Yes. They've kind of gone from annoying journalists by releasing cars in the middle of the night to appeal to the California market to, uh, and giving you the press release at the end of the UK working day to releasing it on a weekend. So, I mean, I completely bypassed me. I was, I was in the pub at the time. So, uh, yeah, try new stuff we don't we don't mind it but if we could just have a normal time on a weekday would possibly be better yeah

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yeah

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rather than getting in the way of a super sunday but uh yeah interesting stuff so headline news it's the most powerful road going production portion 11 ever does that beat the gt2rs does indeed oh it does

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doesn't it yeah just pips it

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yeah yeah by 11 yeah horsepower so yeah the gt2rs was 700 hp 992.2 turbo s That record's

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been held for quite a long time by that 997 though, isn't

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it? Yeah. Eight years. Yeah. Eight years. I know that the 991, 991 PDK car. Okay. That was the, yeah, that was 711. The 997 I think was 620. Okay. A measly 620. Yeah, only. By, by, by yeah, today's standards. So yeah, it, it, it topples the, the, the genuine Vysak car with the GT2 RS, the most powerful 911. Headline figures behind the, the, 711 horsepower and 200 mile an hour top speed is the use of yeah that hybrid technology which we used to from the introduction of the gts yeah the main difference being with the gts there was one e-turbo as part of the hybrid system with the turbo s there's two

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um Because you've obviously driven the GTS. What do you think that's

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going to feel like? unbelievably quick unbelievably quick point to point so what a turbo s is going to do with that sort of power it is frightening

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it is going to be proper scrambling

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doesn't it really is really is so that will be interesting i mean you could say you know look this car is so ridiculously quick now 062 in 2.5 seconds that top speed of 200 mile an hour but 911 turbo s's have been ridiculously quick for decades

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yeah but they've been a bit uh I don't want to say soulless, but noise has always been a bit down, hasn't it? There's not much emotion going on with the noise. But I remember you specifically saying that the GTS sounded absolutely fantastic. So I wonder if that's going to carry through to this Turbo S and it's going to be a big switch on from the previous Turbos and Turbo S's.

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Yeah, I hope so. I think the 992.1 generation car that had a lovely soundtrack to it, it was the first time I think Porsche really nailed the sportiness of the soundtrack it was the first time that actually a sport exhaust was available on the on the turbo so that that did sound really really good so actually we hope that's not lost now

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yes

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okay what I would say is the GTS on board does sound great with its hybrid technology for this generation car it sounds a bit PlayStation II but I don't mind it I grew up on Gran Turismo don't mind it but so yeah I'm hopefully I'll have a decent soundtrack to it but fair to be fair I really do interestingly the cost you can't look past the cost this is a 200 mile an hour Porsche 911 it's also a 200,000 pound Porsche 911 do you remember when

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we were talking about the 50th just what seemed like a few weeks ago or a few months ago and we were like that's expensive and now I'm looking at that thinking

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compared to that to be honest with you Andy I want you you've nailed it I wanted to bring that up because we predict Yeah. Yeah. we said in our write up and our feedback actually I think I think under the March time it will it will prove to be well judged and and won't need a lot of time in order for that to happen and I think we're there now

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yeah

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and and actually you know used examples of that turbo 50 are kicking around 200 200k and again like you said that's for the last combustion engine turbo analog taco all in as well you know so all options considered this car is 200k plus options for the coupe 200 for the cab. And again, for context, so that GT2 RS from 2018, that was, I think I've got the price here somewhere. It's 207K that was new. So this new turbo, I think, and I know there's a hell of inflation gone into the mix in those intervening years. I think if you picked up a GT2 RS when new at list price, You have just done exceedingly well because the hike in price of all these cars, incidentally, the 991.2 Turbo, so released at the same time as that GT2 RS, which is a genuine Vysak motorsport car. A Turbo S at the time was about 160k. So we're 40 grand on now in less than 10 years. It is a heinous chunk of money. It's

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mad, isn't it? It almost feels like we're going to be hitting the 997 scenario where dot ones are a plenty. There's thousands of dot ones because it was the high time. And it's going to be like 992 dot ones was the high time. You know, there was turbos flying out the door all over the place, wasn't there? People were thinking they were going to make money and all that sort of stuff. And we're going to hit the 992 dot twos, which is going to be like the 997.2 is it minimal numbers because

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recession i'm

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a bit scared of yeah how many are going to sell to be honest

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and again it's another great point because i was going to say to you i wonder how many of these we're actually going to see on the road and i'm i'm gonna you know let's play a game put a number out there i'm i'm gonna guess for the uk c16 cars i reckon there's going to be less than 300 of these do you reckon i do yeah over over the lifetime of the car You know, this is before you factor in finance costs and especially, you know, what's the finance at the moment with interest? Is it around 9, 10? I'll have to look that up. You know, with Porsche approved finance, I need to check that. But like, it's big money. It's big money. And this is kind of off the back of outside of a press car or a Porsche dealership demo car. I've not seen a GTS, i.e. a hybrid GTS on the road in this country yet. No, have you? I can't say I've been looking out for them, to be honest. Yeah, I've not seen any, you know, cars and coffees or on the motorways. You can, you know, they're very distinctive from the front because they've got that different grille profile, almost look like teeth, don't they? Yeah, yeah. So, you know, you'll be able to spot them. Honestly, I've just not seen them. I've seen a couple of, you know, like base Carreras with internal combustion engine. But for these GTSs, I've just not seen any. They've been out for a year now. Is it really? I've just not seen any. And this is a car that, you know, no one's ever going to jump out of one of those and go, it's not fast enough. And with this being a 200k car now, I just can't see many of them being shifted at all. So I'm going to say in the UK, 992.2, there's going to be less than 300 Turbo S's. Hmm. Answers on a postcard. Yeah, we'll see. Answers on a postcard. Indeed. So that's the Turbo S download and review really outside of the specs yeah I guess so yeah we've been on the road

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yeah a nice little road trip up north sorry guys sounds a bit derogatory doesn't it saying that

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no not at all I mean you know bearing in mind that for Andy and I down there on the south coast we live in two different parts of town but we are in the same town and therefore anything north of Winchester it gets a bit chilly for us doesn't it really I

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was getting a nosebleed as

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we were driving up past the Watford Gap

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past Winchester

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so yeah we had uh we had a fried eggs and friends at porsche centre leeds which was wonderful yeah it

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was great

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wasn't it really really good but we just built it out into it into a bit of a weekend really yeah we had a

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little road trip didn't we

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it's lovely and i have to say andy because it was just you and i that bombed up from the coast you and your sc myself and in little irish and uh as as i said to you when we stopped for lunch at some point even with just two cars you know that whole adventure

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yeah

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it's exactly what it is it's just a little little adventure and it's just

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lovely seeing the other car in the wing mirror

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it's definitely

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yeah

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and among like the derriere of just ordinary boring cars just to see that perfected and iconic and timeless Porsche shape yeah and I say that because you know from a distance from say the rear you know it came and looks the same as a 911 there's that design philosophy it's all in all in the mix so it doesn't have to be a 911 but it was just fantastic it really really was so really really enjoyed that that journey north we popped in en route to Leeds at Charade UK well the HQ actually at

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Cannock yeah first time I'd been up there I was obviously meant to go up there for the awards ceremony but we all know what happened there I was at home in bed gutted still to have missed that but there we go but yeah it was great to get up there and see what their facilities like

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up there bloody impressive I was going to say what did you make of it

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yeah it was really impressive just a great set up all round isn't it and everybody seems in used and you know the places looked after and yeah seems very different to to a lot of other body shops that i've visited in the past a dusty mess yeah it's nothing like that at all it's very surgical almost yes which um you know comes across from steve i met steve a few times uh steve shaw um he's a a well-cut man isn't he and um his businesses as well i'd say

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yeah yeah it's it's it's clinical yeah absolutely clinical in the way it's finished and presented and the other thing I think we've mentioned this before but you know like a good barometer of a business is when you talk to the staff and how engaged they are with the ethos of the company and what's really clear there is the likes of Lee and Glenn and Mark the general manager that show us around they absolutely are on board with that

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may I say Mark makes a marvellous cup of tea does he did you get a cup of tea or you missed out I might have missed out oh yeah thank you Mark amazing cup of tea excellent up up again

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really good really good yeah we've had um we've had a couple of friends some cars have gone to charade over the last like year or two and i have to say the feedback that we've got and it's kind of why i wanted to pop in again and like give the team at charade the feedback in terms of like how you're handled from the moment you make that call and say oh i'd like this repaired or you know i want this restored yeah he's really impressive so we're hoping one of the team can join us to talk through that in a bit more detail yeah but uh Um, yeah, it was great. You know, there's lovely non and 1.2 turbo S cab there that caught my eye. Uh, and that was about to undergo some repair work, but also they had a, an EV McCann turbo in there with its turbo night badges that, uh, yeah, unfortunately it's come into contact with something at some point, but you know, this is kind of the point that as soon as, as soon as Porsche releases a vehicle, if you're a Porsche recommended repairer, like charade, you have to be trained and skilled to deal with that from day one because because someone could feasibly drive out the center of the dealership, have an accident and, uh, and it's got to be repaired by someone that knows what they're doing, particularly in reference to the new technology. I'll

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tell you what was really interesting because that the new McCann that they were repairing, um, I think that was one of the first ones that has gone through some sort of repairs. And, um, it was, um, Glenn that was taking me around and showing me around and he was saying they didn't have the methods yet. I had to ask for the methods. Um, So they got the methods on how to repair the Macan. But because they're so well-respected in what they do, they were actually going back with feedback to change the methods. Because obviously the methods are a theory. It's not actually been done yet. But they were feeding back. They found things to do that they could do it in a better way. So they were able to feed back on those early methods they received and that'll be with Porsche yeah with Porsche yeah back in Stuttgart to actually improve the way that these cars are are repaired wow so yeah they're on the forefront as it were

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awesome absolutely awesome I mean someone has done some incredible service then in biffing a wall or whatever because it's big bollard it's become a learning curve for everybody so yeah that was with the I think I might have said hybrid earlier on I meant EV if that was the case but yeah the EV mechanic So yeah, all sorts going on. It was awesome to pop in and see all of that. And again, great, great people at Charade UK. And there's a new site actually open for Charades Empire. There's a new one at Tunbridge now. Yes. Yeah. So we've got Cannock HQ in Bristol, Cheltenham and now Tunbridge.

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Yeah. I don't know if Tunbridge is open

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yet. I believe it's the start of next month officially. Okay. Yeah. yeah so yeah really really cool so yeah lovely to lovely to pop into charade en route to Porsche Centre Leeds and

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Steve came along to Leeds bought his 993

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yes yeah so it's good to chat with him with his lad as well yeah so but yeah the night before Fridays and Friends we met up with some members of the DNHC yeah it was a lovely evening meal had a bit of dinner it was

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great good to see everybody good bit of chin wagging

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yeah yeah really really really was lovely to meet the northern contingent and I've got a funny story actually so I'll sit next to Johnny and straight away he said Leo I've got a bone to pick with you I'm afraid in regard to your content I said go on Johnny enlighten me and you'll remember at the start of this year we did at Heritage Car Parts we did our cost of running a Porsche

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yeah

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and oh god yeah I'd introduced that metric of you know once you work out your like annual running costs like to do the cost per mile

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yeah

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and Johnny did that I won't say on which car but um eight pound a mile eight pound a mile and he said I regret the day I ever sat down with a paperwork to work that out. I don't believe that would have been communicated internally, i.e. at home. So, Johnny, so long as you're watching this podcast on your own or listen to it on your own, then you might have got away with it. If not, there's an apology coming. I bet that

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number has reduced. If it's the car that he's just taken away to Norway, I bet the average cost per mile has drastically reduced because he's just done a big trip around Norway, isn't he? Yes. Yeah, I think he's still out there isn't he is he still out there yeah yeah yeah he shipped his car over i don't know how he shipped it he just left took it to the port and they shipped it over didn't they yeah and then he flew over um and has done a tour of norway and in fact he um he met up with one of the dnhc out there simon who's in stravanga is that have i pronounced that

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let's go with it andy yeah

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something like that uh there was a there was a call from johnny um Um, one late one evening help. Does anybody know anybody in Stravanga or surrounding area? I need, I need somebody to weld a bit of my exhaust up. And I thought, ah, Simon that we met in Norway. He came up to the, to the, to Granger with us

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yeah it's been twice now this

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year yeah I think in fact the first year he wasn't a member of the DNHC yet was he but he joined and not long after remembered that he was in Stravanga I've pronounced it another different way really murdering it yeah put them in contact and yeah managed to find a garage sorted Johnny's exhaust out I think he welded shut his valve or something that okay yeah come I think they put a tack on it before and it had come undone so yeah yeah yeah

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the power of the dnhc the power of the dnhc indeed that is amazing and yes johnny after your eight pound a mile calculation I hope you're quite literally well down the road with that figure now and as we've recently realized online works the new motto should be the more you drive the more you save absolutely johnny's experience being testament to that so yeah really good to see those guys but yeah I think that the reason we were up north was for the next day with our fried eggs and fries at Porsche Centre Leeds

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yeah thank you Wayne for the for sorting everything out Wayne Marnie a DNHC member also works at Porsche Leeds he is head of classic isn't he yeah yeah and what a great day it was

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it was all absolutely awesome it was really good to get a good old poke around the site really and a bit of the business I don't know about you but like I've been very aware of JCT 600 the owners of Porsche Centre Leeds centre Leeds for years to be honest with you years and years so yeah really really good to have a look around we've got a little bit of a quick history Andy if you're happy to entertain it yeah I think

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we should do

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on JCT so for those that don't know JCT 600 to quote the full name was founded in 1946 by Edward Tordoff but it gained its name from the personalised number plate believe it or not love that story of Edward's son Jack Tordoff who won the circuit of Ireland Rally and that was in a Porsche 911 by the way I think it was his auntie's number plate really I think so yeah interesting well that was it was in 1973 and the number plate was JCT 600 so from a single garage JCT 600 grew into a major family run automotive retail business with what is described as a significant a significant presence in Yorkshire and the surrounding areas and certainly in terms of the Porsche dealership network up there JCT owns a couple of others as well I think there's a satellite one in York T side as well is under that sheffield too sheffield as well yeah well played yeah where we've also done a fried eggs and friends previously so it's it's quite an empire i think today the center well it still remains family run obviously but i think aside from porsche center south lakes yeah which we called north lakes for about two years until we looked it up uh is also family run so aside from that it's kind of a unique setup to the network yeah really um and in terms of physical footprint I think the big thing that I took away from was just the sheer size it was a monster I'm not aware and this includes HQ at Reading I'm not aware of a bigger Porsche site in the UK than that it is absolutely massive

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yeah it's huge isn't it I couldn't believe what they're doing looking to do well we I'm sure we go into that later yeah in the what the mods they do into the the center

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yeah with guys yeah yeah big revamp incoming as part of like Porsche GB's like mission for destination Porsche yeah really but yeah lots to fit in there particularly with Leeds being a classic partner one of like the half dozen in the UK really yeah so it's a really cool place whether you are an owner fan or aficionado of modern metal but also classic as well these days so really really good we were so chuffed to Porsche Centre Leeds for letting us rock up with a load of DNHC members and wider Nomux TV subscribers as well in fairness to make what was a really lovely, fun morning. Had a good vibe, didn't it?

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It did, yeah. It was a really good vibe. Yeah. Nice, relaxed, enthusiastic. Lots of good chats going on. Good people smiling, drinking good coffee. Yeah, it was

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great. Yeah, yeah. Did you know that we were going to have our cars put in the showroom for the morning? No,

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that was

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a bit of a surprise. It was a fun surprise. I would have

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washed mine if I'd known.

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I'll tell you what. You know, if you own a 175 000 mile 28 year old 996 you know the last place it should be is in a showroom next to a brand spankers new careerity yeah because every stone chip and rock mark and swell mark the whole thing showed up there under the magnifying glass of showroom those

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lights yeah they do fire off everything

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yeah yeah it was uh it was it was frightening actually to see it to see it all but all so really cool to sit in a showroom you know as those cars did once upon a time for the first time when their first custodian was collecting the car so yeah really cool gesture from Wayne so thank you buddy

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yeah thank you for all the organisation it was great Nick did well

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we have got a conversation with a couple of the guys from Porsche Leeds from that morning have we not

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we have including Wayne

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including Wayne

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and Mark who is is that new car sales manager yeah new business really yeah new business So yeah, good to

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chat with them. Thank you. At Porsche Centre Leeds. And then we've got Mark, who's general manager, heading up new car sales. Excellent. So I feel like we've got a foot in either camp here. If you don't like the showroom cars, that's my fault, sorry. That's where Wayne comes in then from there.

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Exactly. Well, I think my showroom cars are far better.

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You've got a bit of a competition going on. What do we think? Who's won? Some good classic cars in there, apart from the Irish green car and the slate grey. But I guess we'll get on to that very shortly. So, as we said, we're so grateful that you guys have let us rock up here. This is a really interesting centre. We had a little bit of a tour earlier on that Wayne, you showed us around. I'm absolutely astounded by the footprint of this place. I think it feels bigger, particularly with the work that you're going to do, which we'll talk about. But in terms of footprint, it feels bigger than even Porsche GB HQ at Reading. sizeable place.

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Well, so yeah, we're going to go for redevelopment. I was down at Reading about two weeks ago, seeing what they've done. That's Destination Porsche. So what you've got there is different areas for the showroom. You've got an electric area, classic area. Well, what we're going to go to is we're going to change our prep area. So where you see the service park behind us, that's going to move behind Ferrari. So eventually, this will be a whole U-shape around the building for new and used cars. So the current development's going on. So behind Ferrari, that's going to be our prep centre. then we go down the road to where Bentley used to be that's currently going to be used by us probably middle of next year as a showroom while this showroom will be done completely we'll have a specific area for Classic then with a ramp in its own destination area so if you go to a newer centre like Nottingham or Reading that's the start and that's what will become to another level

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Excellent, absolutely awesome it feels like and maybe our DNHC members that live up here might be a better place to a pine about this than me, but this kind of feels like a bit of a, in terms of Porsche dealers, like the hub of the north.

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Yeah, it is. I actually come from Manchester every day, so I've worked at Wilmslow Porsche previously. You go over the Pennines, you've got a lot of sensors within five miles, or within 40, 50 miles of each other. This is the second-largest Porsche sensor, or Leeds is, when we had Brookton's previously. So overall, it's us, then you're up to York, you're up to Sheffield. So we do dominate the area. You know, as a sensor, we get a problem double the volume of cars in the centre so we are a big big centre so sometimes our lead times are different because of the size and the footprint that we've got basically

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doing a bit of research at the end of last series we had a podcast episode where we were talking about iconic licence plates and then I didn't realise with JCT600 basically the name of the business formed from the licence plate

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yeah some initials and the licence plate

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really cool it's worth sharing the story for those that don't know that if you wouldn't mind Wayne I

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I'm struggling to remember what it's about, but basically, yeah, JCT relates to, was it his aunties? Yeah, his aunties' initials, and then 600 came from a plate. Yeah. So it was Jack, wasn't it? Yeah, that's Jack Tordoff, yeah. Most iconically seen on the 73 RS, which he rallied. He actually won the Tour of Ireland in that car, and came third in the championship, I believe, behind, check my notes, it was Roger Clark. So a bit of a brilliant driver there as well. He previously raced Saabs with a V4 engine. So he's a massive motorsport nut, and that's carried on through the family as well. We've got Sam Tordoff, who's done the Carrera Coupe, more famous as a touring car driver, now does more historic racing. And then we've got John Tordoff as well. He does a lot of historic racing now as well. So we've got a real

SPEAKER_01:

heritage behind us as well. That's wonderful. article online from 2012 where sam i think as a 17 year old got to drive his grandfather's 2.7 rs lightweight as well might i add one of 17 and that was the first ever car he'd driven on the road yes yeah some introduction

SPEAKER_02:

yeah yeah yeah it looks very different from when jack had it when jack had the car is red um we actually found some we did a film night for classic um i think it was last year or the year before and we actually found a little tiny bit of eight mill footage on the internet somewhere of it literally bouncing through a forest on this unmade road. And it just looks amazing. A great little piece of footage we found. And we used that little segment in our introduction to the film night. And it's great to see it bright red. And then when Sam tested it over that, it changed to white and it had the red decals down the side as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. I know JCT is going to celebrate a big milestone next year and being 80 years old as a company, as a group, being Porsche of brought into the group in 1967. So there's huge longevity and history to the company. I think what makes JCT different, although it's not the only one, but what makes it different from a lot of Porsche centres in the network is, you know, it's still family owned. Does that create an advantage for you guys? I'm sure you're going to say yes.

SPEAKER_02:

I think it does, yeah. Yeah, it gives us, you know, I personally know Sam. I personally know John. I look after a couple of John's cars. I used to work under Sam when I previously worked at another part of business. A story about Sam, the first time I started the job, I started as a mechanic for Maserati. I was walking through the car park. He'd never met before. Good morning, Wayne, how are you? Nice to see you. That's the first words out of his mouth. And that says it all, I think, about the company. Here at Porsche Leeds, it's very much a family. We're all friends. You can work some places and it's not the greatest, but this is a great little place. You feel welcome. We I'll have a laugh, a joke. There's a lot of socialising going on. You play golf with a lot of the team.

SPEAKER_06:

We are a family, from a family values that we have, basically. So I've got a team in sales where people have been here three years, 15 years. So you'll see a familiar face from the sales department if you've been buying from a period of time, basically, which is very rare in this industry. I've been here five years. Wayne's been here two and a half years. We're all car enthusiasts, just like yourselves. So it's just nice to spend time with enthusiasts, really. And the family let us do that. Yes, we've got KPI eyes and matrix but it's all about people if we've got the right people working for us we get good relationships from you guys basically so it's nicely a great turnout today for wayne thank you

SPEAKER_01:

i know mega stuff actually again wayne just before this morning started and you were just giving us a bit of a sneak peek into some like embryonic design plans for the center and changing but like the mooted area for classic is sizable and it's really nice to see because you know most people i think here today drive a car that would perhaps fall under a classic program defined by Porsche as a car that's out of production for 10 years, right? It's quite nice to see us as owners being thought of in that way.

SPEAKER_02:

The role was created a couple of years ago. I actually saw it advertised on the JCT. We get emails through, these jobs are available in JCT. I was working at JCT as a workshop manager somewhere at another site, and I just looked at the job and thought, I want that job. I want that job. I

SPEAKER_04:

think I remember seeing you at Sheffield, and you'd either just got it or you were applying for it. I'd

SPEAKER_02:

just got

SPEAKER_04:

it.

SPEAKER_02:

I'd just got it, and I spoke to you guys, So yeah, the idea of having you guys here was in my head then. That's how I saw it going. When I went for the interview, my idea was I want Porsche Leeds to be the centre of ownership. I want it to be somewhere where people can come, just drop in for a coffee and a chat. I've got several customers who just literally do that. They'll drop in for a chat and pick some parts up or come in for the car servicing and we'll end up chatting for an hour or so. It's quite dangerous at times, really, talking to fellow enthusiasts. And I really wanted it to be a political community. I wanted to really drive it forward in terms of what we offer with Classic. Often you see that OPCs are seen as not being open for owners of Classic cars. We are, especially here. We're a Classic partner. It's fundamental to what we do. The history is important, and we need to look after these cars. So if you've got your early 911s, your 996s, 997s, they're all welcome. We want you here. We want to be able to service your car. We want to be able to supply your parts, give you advice, and just have a laugh and a coffee with you as well. It's all part and parcel of what we do. And I think part of the reason I got this job is because of that passion I've got. Ultimately, I am a Porsche fan. I was the kid with the poster on the wall saying, some of you must remember these. I don't think, when I talk about it, people don't remember them. They was like a black background with a car in front of it, white Lamborghini, there was a Ferrari, and a red flat bell 930. I had the red flat bell 930, that was my favourite. And, been a technician through the years, worked on classics, et cetera, occasionally the Porsche, and the Porsche always had something special. You know yourself, you get behind the steering wheel of the Porsche There's like a calmness. There's like a nice little smile comes across your face. Yeah, it's a passion for me.

SPEAKER_04:

You said you've worked on other brands in the past. What did you find different about Porsche from those brands?

SPEAKER_02:

For me, they make sense in terms of how they're put together, how they operate.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I do get an emotional connection with the engines. You start an air-cooled engine up, there's something there. Balancing a set of carbs, it's pleasurable. And with the later cars as well, you plug into them, you listen to what it's telling you, you get a set of fault codes, and they will lead you down a path that you need to fix that vehicle. But it tells you a path that makes sense. I used to work for Maserati. Yeah. Nothing made sense on them cars.

SPEAKER_04:

So it's very much an engineered car rather than a... Oh,

SPEAKER_02:

definitely, definitely. Yeah, very much an engineered car. Years and years ago, I remember there was a little Seat. I can't remember the exact model of it. And Porsche had been put onto that car. It had a cart spring on the back. A friend of mine had it. And that thing handled with a cart

SPEAKER_01:

spring on the back.

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LAUGHTER

SPEAKER_01:

I think if you, to get slightly geeky on it, if you look at Porsche's, Porsche AG's full title, and it's, you know, Dr. Porsche of Engineering. So it's an engineering company that makes sports cars. as opposed to a sports car manufacturer right and that's why Vysak there's a lot of projects that go on way beyond automotive that we don't see the lint forklift trucks for example cockpits for Boeing or absolutely all sorts goes on at Vysak way beyond the machines that we all drive but to go back to it you know and again looking around the room here and seeing lots of friendly familiar faces from the DNHC that have put in great miles to be here we say it all the time on this podcast. Nobody needs to own a Porsche. We choose to, often for our sins, right? Particularly us 996 owners. But, you know, it's so... And even to be here, we all want to be here today. It's so important that that enthusiasm is matched by you guys, ultimately. And that's why it's great to walk in and see all these, you know, old cars alongside the new stuff as well, because they all contribute equal parts to the brand. Oh, definitely.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, definitely. Porsche have a massive... supply parts for these older cars. I think I was saying last night to Andy, they even make a dashboard for the 924, the early cars with the three dials. They're susceptible to cracking. They even make a dash. It's only available in black, but it's available. They've made that part. If you went to Ferrari or Audi and asked them for a part of a similar age, they'd probably laugh at you. So having that parts backup is essential. And it helps us keep these cars going. And yeah, I think really going forward there's going to be more things coming out. There's a few little electronic components that are coming out for the older cars as well. They've recently brought out LED lights, headlight bulbs for the cars. They're not available in the UK as yet. So I'm hoping they're going to get sort of a ticket to say yes, we can sell them. Because I think they'd sell really well for the G-Bodies and 996 particularly. So you have Porsche have real interest in what they're doing

SPEAKER_01:

here. With just going like because where this is a classic partner isn't it for Porsche you know what what does that mean aside from you know Mark you've had to cede some real estate to Wayne with classic space in the showroom.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah probably a few years you had the choice of the Porsche to be classic or do Sonderwurst so you had a choice of which way you went. we've gone classic just to keep the history of the company that we've had as the family values for what they've driven before, basically. So on that side, bringing it in Wayne, we're probably more after sales currently because the market goes up and down as it does. The key thing is we're here for you for whatever you need. If it's to find a car that we sent to Australia about a year ago, or is it basically to find a part or a dash, that's what a classic sensor offers. It offers that one stop shot if you need it, but we might have to find one for you. But Likewise, we've got the resource around us. We've got a group who's been here probably, I think it was his 40th year, was it, Wayne? Yeah, 40 years. Michael Betts has been here 40 years. So the connections he's got are unbelievable to where we'll send cars to or find cars from. So we can do that. But then we've got Wayne's knowledge. I went to Goodwood, didn't we, about two and a half years ago. Wayne had just started there. His knowledge is unbelievable to help you guys for the knowledge that you probably have on that generation of cars. So we've got a team of people around you to help you. on that side.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. So that kind of covers the classic bit, but it's been rolled out. Eventually it will go nationwide where these Porsche centres like we're standing in today become like destination Porsche. That's the big project, isn't it? I know you guys, that's kind of part of the refit. Again, what does that mean? What does that mean for us? What will change?

SPEAKER_06:

It's more visual. This is a bit of an area We're going to have a bigger area for you so you feel more included. You know, everyone's included with the brand. And that's new, old, and including that classic area to a higher level is what's needed to take it to another level. For people who are joining it for the first time, you know, you feel you're part of the journey. And you definitely

SPEAKER_01:

are. Awesome. I absolutely love that.

SPEAKER_04:

Is it possible to take us through some of the cars that we're seeing over there, Wayne? Yeah. We've got an interesting little sample. There's a couple of dodgy ones towards the right there.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. You can take us through the other ones. They just appeared this morning. I don't know who brought them in. So we've got a little rent spot. Dad's just been in for a couple of minor oil leaks. Is that with us? Yeah. Gentleman's let me show it today. Yeah, I met him

SPEAKER_04:

earlier. Nice

SPEAKER_02:

guy. Yeah, he's a really nice guy. I think he's left now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a guy called Andy, his friend. He contacted me. I did some work on his GT3. And then we brought the Renn Sport in as well. So we're going to look after that for going forward as well. Next week, we've got the C2 993 in yellow. That car, Mike Betts actually originally sold.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02:

So it's a JCT car? Yeah, it's a JCT car. So it's got a pivoting checkered history in terms of it's really well up to after, but unfortunately it was an extra electric car that set a fire. Ah, it's that one, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's the right hand, left hand side was damaged. It's a new rear bumper. The bodywork majority of it is original. It's been repainted. The customer recently bought the vehicle, brought it to us for us to look after. So we're putting a PCM in that, the classic PCM. Done a bit of a service and going through a little bit of a fault with the sunroof, but nothing major It's a great little car.

SPEAKER_04:

What a strange bit of history that is, isn't

SPEAKER_02:

it? Yeah, it's great that it's come back again. I just love those stories where things come back to us. Yeah. Then we've got the bright orange 996. I think we'd call that punchy, wouldn't we? Yeah, yeah. You can't be shy driving that, can you?

SPEAKER_04:

Now, you're telling me that that is a factory painted car?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, it's PTS. I'm not sure of the colour. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

It's not golf, it's too bright, isn't

SPEAKER_02:

it? Yeah, yeah, it's not golf. Proper punch orange if I that is Michael Betts it's his son's car he's picked it up he did the gumball he's taken the majority of the stickers off when he's bought it and apparently that's the spec it came with the with the buckets the cage and everything wow it was a Russian oligarch or something that originally specced that car so that's why it's a little bit above what anyone else would choose

SPEAKER_04:

that's a 996 C4S orange buckets car page, got various other mods, doesn't it? I'm just sort of going through it just so that the listener can visualise what they're hearing.

SPEAKER_02:

And then on the classic stand, we've got a really, really, really nice Primrose PTS yellow 993 Turbo. That's an absolutely stunning car. I've borrowed that off a gentleman who has bought a lot of new cars off us. Supercar Simmo, one of our salesmen, He knows the guy and managed to get that in for me. He actually drove it here and parked it in there for me. I've not driven it yet. Fingers crossed I'll get to at some point.

SPEAKER_01:

Great drive, great drive. Awesome, awesome. Juxtaposed, I guess, by the manual Carrera T cab at the back for a bit of modern metal.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. I really like the Carrera T's.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. We love them here at Ninewell. Yeah. We were chatting to some DNHCers earlier on. I think the greatest barometer you can give for the Carrera T is that Andy B as a, you know, old... Foddy Doddy. Yeah, old, I've just realised, yeah. But yeah, you know, like air-cooled dude, you know, like you were absolutely evangelising over that, which is the biggest compliment you can give that car.

SPEAKER_06:

We've got one of our best customers, big Ferrari customer, because we had a lovely white car, aero kit, T, and basically when that came to show me, the blue deck cars, it's like that just took him back 20 years. You know, so the visual look of that car doesn't have to be the fastest car. but it handles amazing and it just looks like it used to look so you'll see the T's like that one there will have probably the grey decals and the grey mirrors on so we had a white car with the blue one and you have a wooden gear stick on the manual box takes you back to where we used to be so people still value that even though they can have a range of other cars at the same time

SPEAKER_01:

sorry I was going to say so again as journalists can say that that is an absolutely fabulous car a really fabulous car, highlight of the 992, 0.2 away from GT lineup. In terms of sales, they haven't set the place alight. You know, why do you think that is?

SPEAKER_06:

So, we were saying to someone earlier, during 2020, we had a massive order bank, you know, with COVID. Cars were running really, you know, getting silly money back for your car. So, you're running a car for a low value. Since then, there's been price increases that have come around, basically. So, we had a new director that came into Porsche GB. She asked for more volume of cars. We got more volume. He's trying to get our balance of volume, supply and demand. And we probably just had a bit too much supply applying to market, and that's now coming back down to a level where they've got a better level, basically. There is some offers out there because there's some stock out there, but when they've gone, it goes back to as it used to be. So, yeah, a bit different at the minute.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, yeah, interesting, interesting feedback. I think it's about time we opened up to the floor. Has anybody got any questions? It doesn't have to be on the centre. We could get geeky with some cars that you want to ask the experts. Don't make me pick on someone.

SPEAKER_02:

You need Magnus Walker here.

SPEAKER_01:

Excellent. Alex, pass you over.

SPEAKER_03:

Hi, guys. So, question from me. If money, no object, what Porsche would you go for? I'll

SPEAKER_02:

let you answer

SPEAKER_06:

that first. It'd have to be a 918. I saw one about five years ago, took it out of the showroom, and it just looked epic. I was at Donington last week, saw a black one in there, and it just says as a brand what we can offer. It's just a different level, and it didn't look a 12-year-old car when I looked at it. It's probably even older than that now. So that is definitely a car that if you're driving it every day, it'll feel very, very special. So that's the reason why.

SPEAKER_02:

I could answer that by just asking you a lot of questions and what do I have to buy it for? Is it every day, is it? I think ultimately 934 RSR road spec. I just think they're a fantastic looking car. They sound incredible. I've driven original 930 turbos with a 4-speed manual and they are ballistic. For how little brake horsepower they have, they feel as quick as any modern day car to drive them. You're probably not travelling that fast comparatively, but it just feels quicker. It's the feeling you get when you drive that car. So I think the 9 3.4 RSR will just be on another level. Unfortunately, I don't have a million and a half quid for one of those.

SPEAKER_04:

I think that's good timing that Wayne's picked that, isn't it? Because this morning it went live, didn't it? A video on... Oh, is it tomorrow morning? Yeah, it's Sunday tomorrow, isn't it? Well, yeah, it will be live on... By the time this comes out. By the time this comes out, yeah. Tomorrow morning, 9am or 9.11, what time does it release? 9am, yeah. 9am is a great video on Lee driving a 9.3 over in Belgium. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_01:

Lucky, lucky, lucky man. A distinctly above average day at work. Fantastic. Any other questions that we can fire to the team? Thank you for being brave and going first.

SPEAKER_04:

There must be some somewhere.

SPEAKER_01:

Excellent. Please introduce yourself as well. Just a quick question to the four of you. Which cars do you currently

SPEAKER_06:

own and drive? So today I'm driving up to to Scotland today, because we've got our national golf event, so I'm going up to Loch Lomond today. So this weekend, I've got my candy chest for the weekend, so one of the sales guys just says, look, you need to go on a proper route. So you're not going up the motorway, so we literally go in Freware, Troon, so I've got like, it's four hours to six hours, but you know what, it's worth it. It's in a petrol car, so don't drive that every day, unfortunately. We've got a company car, that's an electric car, and that's, that does the job. That's what it does, gets me to work. But this will be more fun on the way down there, all the way up there.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I've got a company car, which is a VW Arteon, which is a great A to B car. And then at home in my garage, with the engine in bits unfortunately at the moment, I've got a 1978 VW Camper. It's a champagne edition, so it's got very, very 70s stripes. It's quite a cool thing, but unfortunately the engine let me down. So I've got to rebuild that, so that's in bits. Currently collecting parts, which are quite hard to come by for good quality parts these days for those engines

SPEAKER_04:

I drive that old 78 SC over there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Excellent. Yes, I've got the Irish green 996 at the back, which is colloquially termed Little Irish. It's kind of the Nine Works work van, really. On the way home, back down to Dorset, later on it will hit 175k. It's very much driven, not hidden, in line with our Nine Works mantra. And then I've got a 40th anniversary, which is very much hidden, not driven. 55,000 miles. And funny, actually, I've just sawned it. Probably a conversation for another day to explore on the podcast. But this sort of time of year where it goes away, I think I've done 1,000 miles in it this year, which is sacrilege, really. It should be far higher. But I always think maybe I should get into something else. And it's kind of this, the peaks and troughs you have of a seasonal car, really, I guess. It's very different to the car you can drive every day. And there's always instant gratification as soon as you jump in Little Irish as a car to be used all year round. but I go through this like winter lull as the car hibernates in the garage it kind of my enthusiasm for it hibernates I think is fair to say and usually it gets to April it goes back on the road and I fall in love with it again but this time of year I always start thinking what's next yeah I guess so you know like again just trying to be sensible with it it's and I've said this on the podcast before it's almost too nice for me and what it is and trying to look after myself for a any day I'll never make myself rich by any stretch of the imagination but trying to be vaguely sensible for it but then you know we're here for a good time not a long time and that kind of goes against the grain in that regard so yeah this time of year is always a difficult one to be

SPEAKER_04:

honest is this an advert for a 40th anniversary

SPEAKER_01:

does anybody want to buy one it's flopping it comes with the luggage kit former owner was the Oasis drummer which is very timely at the moment so yeah come and have a chat us I guess you know again it's just one of those I know this is the thing we constantly play don't we in our own mind as enthusiasts is you know do we stick or twist yeah Gus and I had a wonderful conversation earlier on that actually sometimes the very best car is the one you're already sitting in little Irish probably ticks that for me but yeah again as a seasonal car it kind of is it does have kind of peaks and troughs really and should be driven more with that

SPEAKER_02:

I think I think also I have a lot of times I have conversations with people who are looking to to get into Porsches and classic Porsches. And it's knowing what to buy in the first place and how to buy it. And I think, for me, you've got to let your heart lead a little bit, but also keep your head screwed on. You speak to many people who, they're buying a classic 911, whether it be a 997, an SC, and they've bought it because they've fallen in love with the car. And then they get it home, get it to their local specialist or the dealership, and it's a basket case. Always have your car inspected, get advice beforehand, speak to guys, you know, get involved with Nineworks, get involved with your dealership, speak to them, see what they think. People are always welcome to drop me an email and we can have a conversation. And you've really got to do research before you go and buy a classic or any 911. And ensure that it's the soundest car you can afford. And if you're buying that car love it. It's a spec that you really want but you know there's things wrong with it. Make sure you make a plan going forward how you're going to look after that car.

SPEAKER_04:

Mark, do you sell any classics here?

SPEAKER_06:

The last few years has changed because the market's changed really so about five years ago we used to. Then we slowed down a bit really.

SPEAKER_04:

Do you think that's going to change with the expansion of the showroom here?

SPEAKER_06:

It will change slightly and then also if you think of just the way electrification is going there is always going to be demand for a petrol car.

SPEAKER_04:

So it's probably going going to grow on that basis yeah

SPEAKER_06:

so for us we want to be more connected with you guys if you've got a car to service them to bring them in to look after them yeah so for you to come to us then we'll find other cars for you basically on that side you know because we'll have Mike buying cars at the same time so it will grow yes

SPEAKER_04:

yes yeah you can see that happening we've definitely seen that happening down at Bournemouth haven't we they're a classic approved centre as well and they've got quite a few older classics for sale now so yeah it'll be good to see that coming here as well

SPEAKER_01:

yeah without a doubt Superb. Okay, well, look, shall we give away some prizes? Yes. Yeah, shall we do that, which Mark and Wayne can help out? Again, there's a couple of prizes from Porsche Centre Leeds. We've got one as well, again, fitting in with Driven Not Hidden, as we're known for. We wanted to give something away. We did initially moot furthest travelled, but then we realised we would win that, probably, having come up from the south coast. We'd better change that.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I think we're going to go for furthest that you've... the most amount of miles that you put on your car this year. So, yeah, anybody got any big numbers of, you know, have they done any big trips and, you know, really piled on the miles? I think there's got to be a few around. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

There's a hand rising. What's our first entry? This is like an auction, but it's just for a T-shirt.

SPEAKER_03:

Someone will beat me, but I bought my 718 GT4 middle of May and in eight weeks put 7,500 miles on it. Eight weeks? Yeah, driving to France and driving around North Wales. And it's a club sport and it's not very comfortable. How's your

SPEAKER_01:

back? I think that car must have been on like an automotive treadmill since May. You just keep going. That is

SPEAKER_04:

pretty epic. Have you got any risers on that? So eight weeks of ownership and 7,000 miles. Does anybody get anywhere near that? Well, Alex, I think you take

SPEAKER_01:

the prize. You must have a fuel card as well, I hope. Because that is absolutely insane. so

SPEAKER_04:

we've got a couple of money can't buy prizes here we've got a prototype hat that unfortunately we didn't get enough purchases of so we haven't made any more yet so not

SPEAKER_01:

really selling it at this point Andy

SPEAKER_04:

it's a great hat I love it and also you've got one of these t-shirts which again was a prototype with the stuff on the back where nobody else has got that and a little pin as well so if you want to come up and grab those it's an extra large so it might swamp you a little bit but welcome Superb. Superb. Very good. Excellent. And we've got a couple of hats to give away. One of these mugs, which is to go with the new car. What was that? The Spirit 70. Yeah, very much like that. Very good. And then the big prize is the Experience Centre.

SPEAKER_02:

I think I'll just choose some people from random. Go for it, yeah. See who's actually popped the name in there. Let's just see where I land.

SPEAKER_04:

First prize for a martini racing hat.

SPEAKER_02:

Alex cotterill alex oh well done alex

SPEAKER_04:

Shall we go for another hat? Yeah. What do we call this one? A head. A head southwest. Yeah. 2024. It sort of reminds me a bit of old Gustavo. Yeah, it does, yeah. The old stripes on there. Andrew Betteridge. Andrew Betteridge. Yeah. Well played. Here he comes. Well played. Suits you, sir. Super duper.

SPEAKER_02:

And for a mug... For the mug, Andy Riddick. I think Andy has just gone. Oh, has he gone? Yeah, I'll pull someone else out. Reload, yeah. If he's not here, he's not here. You missed

SPEAKER_04:

it. We've

SPEAKER_02:

got the

SPEAKER_04:

cavalry coming in. Brian Butterworth. Brian Butterworth. Well done, Brian. There's the box there for you as well. Enjoy your brew. Will that be a Yorkshire brew going in there? Lancashire Road. Love it.

SPEAKER_02:

And the big prize? The big prize for the single person to go to Silverstone and do the driving experience, Jim Walker. Jim Walker, are you here?

SPEAKER_01:

Silence. Is it? I can see someone pointing, but... Jim Walker. No? Reload.

SPEAKER_02:

No.

SPEAKER_01:

Reload.

SPEAKER_04:

Sorry, Jim. Don't talk up. You don't get your prize.

SPEAKER_02:

Alex Brody. Ah, Alex. The doctor. Oh,

SPEAKER_05:

no. Dr. Alex Brody. Stay pat. What

SPEAKER_02:

does he get?

SPEAKER_04:

Pick that poster off the wall. That's your prize.

SPEAKER_02:

That's your prize.

SPEAKER_05:

That's it. Excellent.

SPEAKER_04:

Never won anything in my life

SPEAKER_01:

before, ever. Can we just clarify, will Alex get to drive a new product? Because Alex's 996 failed its MOT yesterday,

SPEAKER_04:

so it won't be going around the track. You did get a lift, didn't you? Yeah, I got a lift from James Taylor. Fantastic. I might have to give James a little go in the car then.

SPEAKER_01:

Superb. yeah thank you well done thanks for mentioning the mot failure

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if it doesn't affect future sales

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it'll be fine it'll be fine well done pleasure nice one superb of course nice one thank thank you alex thank you to everybody for coming along like to create such a warm and friendly atmosphere today like typical nine works to be honest you know we just ask people for everything we do whether it's an event or a road trip just turn up with good vibes a little bit of patience and a load of positivity as well and i've really felt that today with the conversations we've had and again I know people have put in some great miles to get here as well an honourable mention as well for D&H Sears Mike and Simon who went and got us an SD card because we came all this way and forgot to bring it to record this today so thank you for that and again just you know thank you so much for making the effort to come out on a Saturday morning thanks to Mark and Wayne and the brilliant team here at Porsche Centre Leeds for showing us around and again just making us feel so welcome so everybody thank you so much thank you thank you guys thanks thanks so much wayne that's mega mega thank you mark nice one dude thank you amazing that was mark and wayne from porsche centre leeds top morning thank you indeed yeah thank you again yeah really really good stuff love to get back up there at some point soon

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yeah can i do a quick spread the love for for jct and supplying the coffee and the pastries uh on the day um i don't know if you've got to spread the love but that's that's mine for for this week yeah yeah yeah

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happy to go with that

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good good

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yeah it was it was it was free coffee and it was good coffee as well more importantly yeah so yeah big big props to sorting that out for us good uh should we do gem of the week yep gem of the week i'm staying with turbo s andy b

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are you

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yeah it's a loose theme of today it's

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not that white one that was at leeds

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was it no but you know what it was yes that was a turbo 50 that was a turbo 50 and that is up for like slap bang on 200 200 notes yeah really good in really good really different didn't have the

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roundel on the door which is a great move and I think the turbo script and everything was in a sort of darky grey or maybe even a gold was it possibly yeah

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it's very different a lot of the examples on the used market currently are in that adventuring green similar to the press car that we drove there's a lot of those there's certainly none that look like that yeah JCT spec car if you like which is still like delivery miles but no it's not that because that car isn't on the numbers marketplace it's not so yeah I've gone do you know what you know that is a 200k car these days the brand new turbo s well if you went for a 911.1 turbo s yeah which is say what just over 10 years old now nobody and I mean nobody has ever jumped out of that car and said that is not fast enough believe me that is a true guided missile and it's still of that era where just everything everything goes on the turbo s spec wise you just basically at that point choose your your color and interior trim options it really is that it really is that comprehensive so that's a 560 horsepower rocket ship mated to seven speed pdk it's in guards red all all guards red cars look fast don't they do let's be honest um what's interesting so it's turbo s so it's got the usual uh recruitment of um like pccbs heated sports seats it's got absolutely everything but what's really interesting about this car is it doesn't have the turbo s center locks it's got five lugs which as we well know on this podcast means it's road trip friendly and i think it looks absolutely sensational it reminds me of a press car i drove in 2013 when the turbo came out that was in that exact spec and we took it around paris with the magazine headline turbo triumph and it's it's yeah that spec it's done 45 000 mile so not a lot really considering it's like just over 10 years old it comes with harbour cars tried and tested 12 month in-house warranty but by themselves not a third party and it's up for£72,000 so by the time you buy three exactly that by the time you spec'd up a Turbo S you could have three of those and honestly you won't get out of that car and say it doesn't lack presence because it's got the turbo wide spec body and And you won't say it isn't fast enough with 560 horsepower and a 0-62 time of just over three seconds. It's an unbelievable amount of car, that. 72k at Harbour Cars. Take a look on the Nomads Marketplace. Barging.

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Excellent. Talking of buying cars, should we talk about our new little, what should we call it? I don't know what we should call it. It's the Buying Boots campaign, isn't it? The Buying Boots campaign. Well said. Yes.

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It bbc very good very good

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our friend craig justice has come up with a lovely t-shirt design which is strapping on your buying boots um And if you buy a car from the, or bought a car from the Nineworks marketplace in the last couple of years, if your purchase has been guided by that car being advertised on the marketplace or guided by it being featured in one of our YouTube videos talked about in the podcast, you feel that it's come your way because of that, then do give us a shout. You're entitled to a free of charge t-shirt with, um, lovely little graphic on the front, little man buying boots, man running with his bag of cash.

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It's such a good drawing. It's such a great little design for Mr. Justice sketch. And it's a money can't buy t-shirt, which is always really cool. Yeah. I believe I'm entitled to one.

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You are. Yeah. Just scraping there.

SPEAKER_01:

Scraping in there for the Paragon purchase. Yeah. But, um, yeah, exactly. As you said, Andy, you know, if, if any of our, uh, If any of our editorial insight has just helped push you in the direction of a great car on the Nineworks Marketplace, we just want to say a little thanks by sending you out a free of charge quality t-shirt.

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Yeah. Cementing that idea that the Nineworks Marketplace is the, you know, you feel comfortable buying from there. Yeah. It's the sign of quality.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Which we've had some lovely feedback so far. We have, yeah. In terms of, yeah, like anecdotal from people buying cars from the dealers on the marketplace and what that's meant to them. So it's been really nice to see. And again, exactly as you said, Andy, just kind of crystallizes what we're trying to achieve with that marketplace and how it differs from quite literally anything else out there.

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Yeah. Allowing people to be confident in their purchase.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Yeah. So if somebody thinks, oh, that is definitely, I fall into that category. I've bought a car. What do they need to do?

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Send an email to hello at nineworks.co.uk. saying which car you've bought, where you bought it from. pop in your t-shirt size and uh yeah a little quote of why you bought it and how you felt confident about buying it from somebody on the marketplace

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yeah yeah and we'll ratify that with the dealers yeah at their end as well absolutely if not we're gonna be uh bang out of business by monday we're clothing britain love it

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excellent good okay i'll give you an update on the dnhc a collective update I've kept it local to Leeds. So I've got three new members that are up around the area. First off is Oliver Beavis, who is based in Leeds. I'm not sure if you were there on the weekend. He has just recently purchased, I believe, a 997.2 C2 in guards red. Yeah, had it just a month and he's loving it.

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Beautiful.

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Yeah, I think he was there. No, he couldn't make it. He couldn't make it, unfortunately. I think he had some family thing going on. But yeah, second up is Steve Thompson, who is based in Warwickshire, so not too far away. Currently, Or

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Warwickshire from Leeds. Well,

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you know, it's way north of here, isn't it? It's on the way. I

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love

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it. Give me a bit of bandwidth.

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Give me a bit of bandwidth. True Costa del South Coast. Yeah, it is, isn't it? Yeah.

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Currently driving a Tesla Model Y in brackets, I know. But he... has been swayed recently i think he's uh i think he said he's he's coming up to 50 and decided that it's about time that he bought a porsche um has been looking at 911s looked at uh gts four liter cayman um but found all of those a bit of a stretch at the moment he's still got kids hanging around needing to be paid for for college and stuff like that

SPEAKER_01:

biff them off steve yeah biff them off

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i think that's what his brother-in-law boasts uh he's got a 911 Carrera Ford GTS so he's always making comments to Steve but Steve's decided to go for a Cayman style edition he has seen one of those buying it new and very much looking forward to picking that up I wonder if he's picked that up by now actually be interesting to see what he thinks about

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that's going to be going from a Tesla

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yeah

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into a Cayman style edition that is going to be an incredible experience that's going to be like being able to see for the first time I think you know in terms of tactility and and how everything just engagement oh wow congratulations Steve and that's that's just to confirm that Steve in in Warwickshire in Yorkshire yeah

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not in Yorkshire no north north yeah it's on the way on the way near it is same time zone to be fair okay I'm going where was the other one that I was going to do today oh Oh, yeah, this is nowhere near. I thought I had three lined up in up north. Oliver, Steve. Right. OK. I really bugged this up.

SPEAKER_01:

I love it. It's great.

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Andrew Aldridge, who joins us from Chapel Row in West Berkshire.

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Again,

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on the way.

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Yeah, on the way. If you're going that way, it's definitely on the way.

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He's actually very close to the Renegade Brewery and that's how he found out about the DNHC. I think he had a load of cars go past his front window. Recently bought a car from Raj at MR Sports Cars. He has a 2013 991.1 Carrera S-Cab that he's very happy

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with. Beautiful, beautiful. And what a superb all-round Porsche sports car that really is by the way yeah

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that's a do it all everything in that yeah

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yeah a big big big welcome to collective and also just want to go back to Oliver yes quickly on this topic of guards red cars you know I mean yeah 997.2 which as you rightly pointed out at the top of the podcast way rarer than the dot one and also again you don't see many of those in guards red no there's a lot of like you know basalt blacks and meteor greys particularly of the of the c2 of that generation so a guards red that's a love s inspired choice yeah really nice lovely

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good okay i'll be back next week with i think a longer list okay yeah we've had a lot of new new members yeah of recent times okay

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in and around the leads yeah i totally mucked that up didn't i love it mate i love it nine works radio is back

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yes in total mayhem yeah

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yeah with with that in mind And I guess see you next week. See you next week. Sign off.

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This episode is brought to you by the Driven Not Hidden Collective. If you'd like to join the DNHC and unlock unique new experiences with your Porsche, visit nineworks.co.uk forward slash join. You can also support us by leaving a five-star review on your favorite podcast app and Google reviews.

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